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Questão sobre Channel/Master Coarse Tuning

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Emanuel
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Olá, comunidade do MMA, sou novo aqui, estou aprendendo.
Eu estou tendo dificuldade em aplicar o Coarse Tuning, quer seja ele Channel Coarse Tuning ou Master Coarse Tuning.

Recentemente, eu aprendi a fazer a mensagem MIDI RPN 01, a Master Fine Tuning; testei várias vezes, obtive sucesso e entendi satisfatoriamente essa mensagem MIDI. Mas não consegui entender ou fazer a Master Coarse Tuning ou Channel Coarse Tuning funcionar.

Eu não sei se estou fazendo errado a configuração, pois não obtenho resultado algum quando faço a configuração como eu aprendi pesquisando.

Eu vou mostrar como tenho feito:

CC 101, valor 0.
CC 100, valor 2.
CC 6, valor qualquer e não obtenho resultado depois disso.

Alguém poderia me ajudar a entender por que não tenho tido resultado com o Coarse Tuning?

Encarecidamente,
EmanuelSantos

Hi, MMA community, I'm new here, I'm learning.
I'm having difficulty applying Coarse Tuning, whether it's Channel Coarse Tuning or Master Coarse Tuning.

Recently, I learned how to make MIDI message RPN 01, the Master Fine Tuning; I tested it several times, got success and understood this MIDI message satisfactorily. But I couldn't understand or make Master Coarse Tuning or Channel Coarse Tuning work.

I don't know if I'm doing the configuration wrong, because I don't get any results when I do the configuration as I learned by researching.

I'll show you how I've done it:

CC 101, value 0.
CC 100, value 2.
CC 6, any value and I get no result after that.

Could someone help me understand why I haven't had results with Coarse Tuning?

dearly,
Emanuel Santos

 
Posted : 06/10/2021 8:29 pm
Sema
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Emanuel
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Obrigado por responder, Sema.

Eu uso o teclado controlador USB Behringer UMX610. Será que é o teclado que não responde ao Coarse Tuning?

Thanks for answering, Sema.

I use the Behringer UMX610 USB controller keyboard. Is it the keyboard that doesn't respond to Coarse Tuning?

 
Posted : 07/10/2021 5:21 am
Emanuel
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Obrigado pelos arquivos, Sema. Entendi um pouco mais como usar o Channel Coarse Tuning.

 
Posted : 07/10/2021 2:26 pm
Sema
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You are welcome! 🙂
If you want to see the source code for these (and more) files, please check https://github.com/jazz-soft/test-midi-files

 
Posted : 07/10/2021 2:43 pm
Emanuel
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Muito obrigado, Sema!

 
Posted : 07/10/2021 2:59 pm
Emanuel
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I saw that the .MID files after importing have been sounding like one same note on the track in the DAW, even though they sounded like a sequence of different notes originally.

 
Posted : 07/10/2021 4:45 pm
Sema
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If the player supports Coarse Tuning the file sounds like a scale, otherwise, like one note.

 
Posted : 08/10/2021 6:43 am
Emanuel
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Thank you much, Sema!

I will try again.

 
Posted : 08/10/2021 10:15 am
Emanuel
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[quotePost id=11196]Try these files:
https://github.com/jazz-soft/test-midi-files/raw/main/midi/test-rpn-00-02-coarse-tuning.mid
https://github.com/jazz-soft/test-midi-files/raw/main/midi/test-sysex-7f-04-04-master-coarse-tuning.mid
Some synths may not understand coarse tuning[/quotePost]

Será que se eu instalar o NPM e o Node JS e o JZZ-MIDI-SMF, meu computador e minha DAW poderão ler, escrever e reproduzir mensagens MIDI que antes não liam?

 
Posted : 26/10/2021 11:16 am
Emanuel
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If I install NPM and Node JS and JZZ-MIDI-SMF, will my computer and DAW be able to read, write and play MIDI messages that they didn't read before?

 
Posted : 26/10/2021 12:50 pm
Geoff
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I suspect not.

But it depends on WHY Course Tuning did not work.

I understand that the system you're using is a Virtual Synth. If Course Tuning is NOT supported by the software of the VS, then the jazz system will make no difference. You would need to make change(s) to the VS software to do that. If it did not work because the message was not getting through a layer within the DAW, or a driver, or something, then it MIGHT be that that the jazz system might open such a door but this is unlikely, this system is merely testing the operation of what is already there.

Geoff

 
Posted : 26/10/2021 1:09 pm
Emanuel
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Thank you for responding me, Geoff.

Then, is It up to me to study the MIDI implementation Chart of my Virtual Synth in use, is not?

 
Posted : 26/10/2021 3:04 pm
Emanuel
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What is JZZ-MIDI-SMF for?

Is Syntronik compatible to Coarse Tuning?

 
Posted : 26/10/2021 3:50 pm
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