There are known problems with a single specific device, a cheap MIDI USB connector made in china, actual Mfg unknown.

This connector MAY work under certain circumstances, but in most normal circumstances it does not work properly. Looking inside it, there appears to be some important components missing, i.e. they are marked on the little PCB, but are not there. This device is certainly not made by M-Audio. They make a number of midi accessories, and their devices should be OK. your problem may well be nothing to do with the actual device.

Please explain more about how the device you have is connected, and how it is being used. Have you used software like MIDI-OX to verify what midi data is coming through, or more important, what is missing. For example, how is your equipment set up to handle Running Status, which could give the impression that something is wrong?

Geoff

[quotePost id=19686]There are known problems with a single specific device, a cheap MIDI USB connector made in china, actual Mfg unknown.

This connector MAY work under certain circumstances, but in most normal circumstances it does not work properly. Looking inside it, there appears to be some important components missing, i.e. they are marked on the little PCB, but are not there. This device is certainly not made by M-Audio. They make a number of midi accessories, and their devices should be OK. your problem may well be nothing to do with the actual device.

Please explain more about how the device you have is connected, and how it is being used. Have you used software like MIDI-OX to verify what midi data is coming through, or more important, what is missing. For example, how is your equipment set up to handle Running Status, which could give the impression that something is wrong?

Geoff[/quotePost]
Thanks for the reply! One problem in this whole endeavor is that this is my first meeting with anything midi related as I said.
I'm running the MIDI out from my yamaha to Ableton Live via the usb.
In there i have a simple midi channel armed with only the input from the piano (no pc keyboard midi input or other devices)
I'm gonna try downloading MIDI OX to get a better understanding of what is being sent.

Edit: Well this might be a simple driver issue after all...

Edit 2: Just another footnote, I discovered I can't get the MIDI OUT led on the interface to light up with any connection. Only the MIDI in lights up when i plug it into the midi out of the piano which luckily is the only function I want.

Something else to watch out for.

Midi works via 'channels'. There are 16 Ch available, sometimes numbered 1 to 16, sometimes 0 to 15. The MIDI data handles this as 0 to 15.

Some keyboards default to using Ch x, say 2. Unless you specifically tell it to use a different Ch. I would expect Ableton to default to receiving All ch, but it might have got set to use something specific.

So, if Ableton is listening for Ch 4, say, and the keyboard is sending on Ch 2, then you will never hear anything. Nothing is 'wrong', the two devices are just using different channels.. MIDI-OX will show this immed.

If you can make sure Ableton is receiving on ALL channels then that will be a help - this may be POLY (Polyphonic) Mode. Then, whichever Ch the keyboard is using, you'll hear it.

Some keyboards have a mode to split the keyboard and use 2 channels, say 2 for the main part, and 3 for the bottom octave. Very few keyboards default to using Ch 1.

Geoff

I took care of that already.
I'm pretty sure my midi channels are set up correctly.

I did find something very interesting though.
https://imgur.com/a/9kSBqWz

So in the GIF i'm playing constantly with only a few notes being read but as you can see the moment i started pressing the pedal a bit a lot more of my notes are read.
I also confirmed that on ableton that as long as i'm spamming the pedal i can play notes at basically the same rate.
Maybe removing the midi for the pedals could be a start?
Although i would prefer to do that with software somehow because constantly messing with the cable will be annoying due to the keyboard's position.

Edit: removing the pedal module is virtually impossible without some dissasembly.

Hmm?

Pedals/Controllers can be a problem. Usually because they can generate so much information that other (more important stuff) is swamped out?

But, sounds like you're getting the opposite here??

The pedal data is helping the keyboard data get through??

I'd wonder if there's something wrong with the powering of the midi circuit/cable? But use of the pedal helps correct this? How is the pedal powered? I'd assume the normal cable is powered by the keyboard? Check +/- in as many places as you can, is the voltage level the same, is the +/- the same way around, do they stay the same way around for the pedal getting little use, and a LOT of use?

Geoff

[quotePost id=19697]Hmm?

Pedals/Controllers can be a problem. Usually because they can generate so much information that other (more important stuff) is swamped out?

But, sounds like you're getting the opposite here??

The pedal data is helping the keyboard data get through??

I'd wonder if there's something wrong with the powering of the midi circuit/cable? But use of the pedal helps correct this? How is the pedal powered? I'd assume the normal cable is powered by the keyboard? Check +/- in as many places as you can, is the voltage level the same, is the +/- the same way around, do they stay the same way around for the pedal getting little use, and a LOT of use?

Geoff[/quotePost]
I can't really go in with the meter to check voltage if that's what you're referring i would like to keep that as a last resort.
So unplugging the midi for the pedals doesn't solve anything unfortunately.

Edit: ok playing without the pedal has the same issue of monophonic only one note every few seconds that holds indefinitely. But
Pedal connected: every 3 - 5 seconds
Pedal disconnected: every 2-3 seconds

Does that point someone in any direction on the problem?

[quotePost id=19715][quotePost id=19697]Hmm?

Pedals/Controllers can be a problem. Usually because they can generate so much information that other (more important stuff) is swamped out?

But, sounds like you're getting the opposite here??

The pedal data is helping the keyboard data get through??

I'd wonder if there's something wrong with the powering of the midi circuit/cable? But use of the pedal helps correct this? How is the pedal powered? I'd assume the normal cable is powered by the keyboard? Check +/- in as many places as you can, is the voltage level the same, is the +/- the same way around, do they stay the same way around for the pedal getting little use, and a LOT of use?

Geoff[/quotePost]
I can't really go in with the meter to check voltage if that's what you're referring i would like to keep that as a last resort.
So unplugging the midi for the pedals doesn't solve anything unfortunately.

Edit: ok playing without the pedal has the same issue of monophonic only one note every few seconds that holds indefinitely. But
Pedal connected: every 3 - 5 seconds
Pedal disconnected: every 2-3 seconds

Does that point someone in any direction on the problem?[/quotePost]

Edit #3432432: Here's a video detailing the problem: https://youtube.com/shorts/JWs_II8R-rQ?feature=share
maybe I should make a new thread?

Can't get the video to show anything, but I see that the 'name' includes 'shorts'. I assume as in a short circuit, rather than an item of clothing?

Yes, I still suspect something electrical in the circuit you've got, computer, cable, pedal, DAW. Some type of short circuit is a possibility.

Check the items very carefully, any sign of damage? Anything been messed with, altered, soldered, re-soldered. Something is NOT behaving normally. Can you check the usb cable with anything else, or swap it with a known good one? Next, look inside the pedal, esp re batteries.

Geoff

[quotePost id=19717]Can't get the video to show anything, but I see that the 'name' includes 'shorts'. I assume as in a short circuit, rather than an item of clothing?

Yes, I still suspect something electrical in the circuit you've got, computer, cable, pedal, DAW. Some type of short circuit is a possibility.

Check the items very carefully, any sign of damage? Anything been messed with, altered, soldered, re-soldered. Something is NOT behaving normally. Can you check the usb cable with anything else, or swap it with a known good one? Next, look inside the pedal, esp re batteries.

Geoff[/quotePost]

Weird it's a simple unlisted youtube upload and it got turned to "Youtube Shorts" automatically because of the length.
https://imgur.com/a/8CVjTuE
Here's an igmur mirror.
At this point i'll propably try to return it for cash at the store i bought it from maybe try my luck with an official yamaha interface.